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Lecturers

Cyrille Martraire stands as one of the most influential figures in the French software craftsmanship movement, having co-founded Arolla, a boutique consultancy that has redefined how enterprise teams approach code quality, domain-driven design, and technical excellence. With nearly two decades of experience building mission-critical financial systems at investment banks and fintech startups, Cyrille has cultivated a philosophy that places expressiveness, readability, and long-term maintainability at the heart of software development. He is the founder of the Software Craftsmanship Paris community, a regular speaker at international conferences, and a passionate advocate for learning across technological boundaries. His ability to draw meaningful insights from seemingly disparate ecosystems—such as .NET—stems from a deep curiosity about how different platforms solve similar problems, and how those solutions can inform better practices in Java.

Rui Carvalho, a veteran .NET architect and ASP.NET MVC specialist, brings a complementary perspective rooted in over fifteen years of web development across startups, agencies, and large-scale enterprise platforms. A fixture in the ALT.NET Paris community and a recurring speaker at Microsoft TechDays, Rui has witnessed the entire arc of .NET’s evolution—from the monolithic WebForms era to the open-source, cross-platform renaissance of .NET Core and beyond. His expertise lies not merely in mastering Microsoft’s tooling, but in understanding how framework design influences developer productivity, application architecture, and long-term system evolution. Together, Martraire and Carvalho form a dynamic duo capable of transcending platform tribalism to deliver a nuanced, humorous, and technically rigorous comparison that resonates deeply with developers on both sides of the Java–.NET divide.

Abstract

This article represents a comprehensive, elaborately expanded re-interpretation of Cyrille Martraire and Rui Carvalho’s landmark 2012 DevoxxFR presentation, “.NET pour le développeur Java : une source d’inspiration ?”, transformed into a definitive treatise on the parallel evolution of Java and C# and their mutual influence over nearly three decades of enterprise software development. Delivered with wit, mutual respect, and a spirit of ecumenical dialogue, the original talk challenged the audience to look beyond platform loyalty and recognize that Java and C# have been engaged in a continuous, productive exchange of ideas since their inception. From the introduction of lambda expressions in C# 3.0 (2007) to Java 8 (2014), from LINQ’s revolutionary query comprehension to Java’s Streams API, from async/await to Project Loom’s virtual threads, the presenters traced a lineage of innovation where each platform borrowed, refined, and occasionally surpassed the other.

This expanded analysis delves far beyond surface-level syntax comparisons to explore the philosophical underpinnings of language design decisions, the ecosystem implications of framework choices, and the cultural forces that shaped adoption. It examines how .NET’s bold experimentation with expression trees, dynamic types, extension methods, and Razor templating offered Java developers a vision of what was possible—and in many cases, what Java later adopted or still lacks.

EDIT
Updated for the 2025 landscape, this piece integrates the latest advancements: C# 13’s primary constructors and source generators, Java 21’s pattern matching and virtual threads, Spring Fu’s functional web framework, GraalVM’s native compilation, and the convergence of both platforms under cloud-native, polyglot architectures. Through rich code examples, architectural deep dives, performance analyses, and forward-looking speculation, this work offers not just a historical retrospective, but a roadmap for cross-platform inspiration in the age of cloud, AI, and real-time systems.

The Shared Heritage: A Tale of Two Languages in Constant Dialogue

To fully appreciate the depth of inspiration between Java and C#, one must first understand their shared origin story. Java was released in 1995 as Sun Microsystems’ answer to the complexity of C++, promising “write once, run anywhere” through the JVM. C#, announced by Microsoft in 2000, was explicitly positioned as a modern, type-safe, component-oriented language for the .NET Framework, but its syntax, garbage collection, exception handling, and metadata system bore an uncanny resemblance to Java. This was no coincidence. Anders Hejlsberg, the architect of C#, had previously designed Turbo Pascal and Delphi, but he openly acknowledged Java’s influence. As Cyrille humorously remarked during the talk, “C# didn’t just look like Java—it was Java’s younger brother who went to a different school, wore cooler clothes, and occasionally got better grades.”

This fraternal relationship manifested in a decade-long game of leapfrog. When Java 5 introduced generics in 2004, C# 2.0 responded with generics, nullable types, and anonymous methods in 2005. When C# 3.0 unveiled LINQ and lambda expressions in 2007, Java remained silent until Java 8 in 2014. When Java 7 introduced the invokedynamic bytecode in 2011 to support dynamic languages, C# 4.0 had already shipped the dynamic keyword in 2010. This back-and-forth was not mere imitation—it was a refinement cycle where each platform stress-tested ideas in production before the other adopted and improved them.

Lambda Expressions and Functional Programming: From Verbosity to Elegance

One of the most visible and impactful areas of cross-pollination was the introduction of lambda expressions and functional programming constructs. In the pre-lambda era, both Java and C# relied on verbose anonymous inner classes to implement single-method interfaces. A simple event handler in Java 6 looked like this:

button.addActionListener(new ActionListener() {
    @Override
    public void actionPerformed(ActionEvent e) {
        System.out.println("Button clicked at " + e.getWhen());
    }
});

The equivalent in C# 2.0 was only marginally better, using anonymous delegates:

button.Click += delegate(object sender, EventArgs e) {
    Console.WriteLine("Button clicked");
};

But in 2007, C# 3.0 introduced lambda expressions with a syntax so clean it felt revolutionary:

button.Click += (sender, e) => Console.WriteLine("Clicked!");

This wasn’t just syntactic sugar. It was a paradigm shift toward functional programming, enabling higher-order functions, collection processing, and deferred execution. Rui demonstrated how this simplicity extended to LINQ:

var recentOrders = orders
    .Where(o => o.Date > DateTime.Today.AddDays(-30))
    .OrderBy(o => o.Total)
    .Select(o => o.CustomerName);

Java developers watched with envy. It took seven years for Java 8 to deliver lambda expressions in 2014, but when it did, it came with a more rigorous type system based on functional interfaces and default methods:

button.addActionListener(e -> System.out.println("Clicked!"));

The Java version was arguably more type-safe and extensible, but it lacked C#’s expression-bodied members and local functions.

EDIT:
In 2021, Java 21 has closed the gap further with pattern matching and unnamed variables, but C# 13’s primary constructors in records remain unmatched:

public record Person(string Name, int Age);

LINQ: The Query Comprehension Revolution That Java Never Fully Embraced

Perhaps the most profound inspiration from .NET—and the one Java has still not fully replicated—is LINQ (Language Integrated Query). Introduced in C# 3.0, LINQ was not merely a querying library; it was a language-level integration of query comprehension into the type system. Using a SQL-like syntax, developers could write:

var result = from p in people
             where p.Age >= 18
             orderby p.LastName
             select new { p.FirstName, p.LastName };

This syntax was compiled into method calls on IEnumerable<T>, but more importantly, it was extensible. Providers could translate LINQ expressions into SQL, XML, or in-memory operations. The secret sauce? Expression trees.

Expression<Func<Person, bool>> predicate = p => p.Age > 18;
var sql = SqlTranslator.Translate(predicate); // "SELECT * FROM People WHERE Age > 18"

Java’s Streams API in Java 8 was the closest analog:

List<Person> adults = people.stream()
    .filter(p -> p.getAge() >= 18)
    .sorted(Comparator.comparing(Person::getLastName))
    .map(p -> new PersonDto(p.getFirstName(), p.getLastName()))
    .toList();

But Streams are imperative in spirit, lack query syntax, and cannot be translated to SQL without external tools like jOOQ. Cyrille lamented: “Java gave us the pipeline, but not the language.”

Asynchronous Programming: async/await vs. the Java Journey

Concurrency has been another arena of inspiration. C# 5.0 introduced async/await in 2012, allowing developers to write asynchronous code that looked synchronous:

public async Task<string> FetchDataAsync()
{
    var client = new HttpClient();
    var html = await client.GetStringAsync("https://example.com");
    return Process(html);
}

The compiler transformed this into a state machine, eliminating callback hell. Java’s journey was more fragmented: Futures, CompletableFuture, Reactive Streams, and finally Project Loom’s virtual threads in Java 21:

try (var executor = Executors.newVirtualThreadPerTaskExecutor()) {
    return executor.submit(() -> client.get(url)).get();
}

Virtual threads are a game-changer, but they don’t offer the syntactic elegance of await. As Rui quipped, “In C#, you write synchronous code that runs asynchronously. In Java, you write asynchronous code that hopes to run efficiently.”

Web Frameworks: From WebForms to Razor and the Templating Renaissance

Rui traced .NET’s web framework evolution with particular passion. The early 2000s were dominated by ASP.NET WebForms, a drag-and-drop, event-driven model that promised rapid development but delivered ViewState bloat, postback hell, and untestable code. It was, in Rui’s words, “a productivity trap disguised as a framework.”

The community rebelled, giving rise to ALT.NET and frameworks like MonoRail. Microsoft responded with ASP.NET MVC in 2009, embracing separation of concerns, testability, and clean URLs. Then came Razor in 2010—a templating engine that felt like a revelation:

@model List<Person>
<h1>Welcome, @ViewBag.User!</h1>
<ul>
@foreach(var p in Model) {
    <li>@p.Name <em>(@p.Age)</em></li>
}
</ul>

No XML. No JSP-style scriptlets. Just C# and HTML in harmony. Java’s JSP, JSF, and even Thymeleaf felt antiquated by comparison. But in 2020, Spring Boot with Thymeleaf or Micronaut Views has narrowed the gap, though Razor’s layout system and tag helpers remain superior.

The Cutting Edge in 2025: Where Java and C# Stand Today

EDIT:
C# 13 and .NET 9 continue to innovate with source generators, record structs, and minimal APIs:

var builder = WebApplication.CreateBuilder();
var app = builder.Build();
app.MapGet("/", () => "Hello World");
app.Run();

Java 21 counters with pattern matching for switch, records, and virtual threads, but lacks native metaprogramming. Projects like Spring Fu and Quarkus are pushing functional and reactive paradigms, but the expressive gap remains.

Conclusion: Inspiration Without Imitation

Martraire and Carvalho’s core message endures: Java and .NET are not rivals—they are collaborators in the advancement of managed languages. The inspiration flows both ways, and the future belongs to developers who can transcend platform boundaries to build better systems.

EDIT:
In 2025, as cloud-native, AI-augmented, and real-time applications dominate, the lessons from this 2012 dialogue are more relevant than ever.

Links

• Cyrille Martraire – Arolla
• ALT.NET Paris
• C# Language Evolution
• Java 21 Features
• Video: .NET pour le développeur Java